Worban
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Post by Worban on Apr 23, 2016 19:56:46 GMT -5
Yeah, blah, this will be my new Mon/Tues routine for GW from here on out. It doesn't bother me at all to do 24 in one day, every week. Even if just a few of us do this, it will cover all contigencies.
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Post by blah on Apr 23, 2016 20:09:02 GMT -5
Hmm. I overlooked Wednesday... hard mode battle day is ALSO 1400 energy, not the ~612 it was before. That's actually a huge change...
So now it's looking like FTP can pull this off placing top 3 every day in arena, otherwise probably having to spend money. Doable for me, that Wednesday hit is massive because you don't have time to stockpile, you're forced to burn at least 5 refreshes monday-friday.
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Post by Worban on Apr 23, 2016 20:16:54 GMT -5
That's right. Cension, you may want to update your new thread entitled NEW ENERGY REQUIREMENTS, SAME GUILD REQUIREMENTS to reflect that.
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Post by Darth Cension on Apr 23, 2016 20:20:34 GMT -5
I get that they adjusted Monday and Friday so you could farm purples but HM requirements have almost tripled from 536 to 1400...
Haven't been very acquainted with EA before but I'm starting to see why there's so much hate towards them
EDIT: Good call Worban, just did that
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Post by warfield on Apr 23, 2016 20:39:14 GMT -5
Hey guys, if I get this right..... Because of time zone differences, one can potentially complete 36 GW battles within the 24 hours on Tuesday allowed to do so (as long as you are not in the same time zone as the boss). 12 carried from the day before, 12 from your Tuesday refresh and another 12 from your next day which say comes before guild time zone ends.
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Post by Worban on Apr 23, 2016 20:45:24 GMT -5
That just blew my mind, warfield! Lol I think my brain popped a gasket on that one. I'm gonna keep it simple and do 24 in whatever time frame necessary to credit the guild. But good thinking for those that can wrap their heads around it.
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Post by jayday22 on Apr 23, 2016 20:50:05 GMT -5
Just saw this in the forums from CGJohnSalera "Also, Guild Daily Activities will be available when the update starts to go live Sunday evening, Pacific."
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Post by Worban on Apr 23, 2016 20:53:20 GMT -5
Oh NICE!!!!!!!! I thought that's how it would be, but wasn't sure, and couldn't remember my source. So I just edited my post eariler in the other thread to be in conformity with the latest info.
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Post by Darth Cension on Apr 23, 2016 20:59:31 GMT -5
AT LAST THE PROPHET HAS SPOKEN
Let us now sacrifice the beating hearts of 666 F2P players and empty their wallets at the altar of EA ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Post by Worban on Apr 23, 2016 21:02:12 GMT -5
Blah is about to post some very good news here. He's crunched the numbers for us and will explain how fulfilling these new energy requirements through the week is possible, with Top 10 finishes every day. Might be worth summing that up to reassure F2P players in your other thread, so we don't scare people off.
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Post by Darth Cension on Apr 23, 2016 21:12:23 GMT -5
Will update it with that info as soon as he posts it
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Post by blah on Apr 23, 2016 21:15:47 GMT -5
This is imperfect math, but I always lean towards being pessimistic. Optimizing energy spending to meet requirements will require 2350-2550 crystal per week, and will not require you to do more than 4 refreshes per day. You will be restricted to spending energy on mon/wed/fri, and slightly saturday but must have 135 energy before you collect your first bonus energy.
Saturday: Save. 135 stockpiled + 135 bonus + 480 refresh - 60 Daily = 690 End of day.
Sunday: Save. 690 + 480 refresh + 135 bonus - 60 daily = 1245 End of day.
Monday: BURN IT ALL + 2 refresh at start of day (1245 + 240 = 1485, covers daily and objective). 25 energy left, you'll be full by the time the first bonus refresh hits. 135 + 135 + 240 refresh = 510 end of day.
Tuesday: Save. 510 + 480 refresh + 135 bonus - 60 daily = 1065 End of day.
Wednesday: BURN IT + 240 refresh, leaves 160 energy to go, you'll have that done by the first bonus. Collect the next two bonuses and you'll have 180 energy + 240 refresh = 420 End of day.
Thursday: Save. 420 + 480 + 135 - 60 = 840 End of day.
Friday: BURN + 480 refresh = 1320 spent, spend the rest of the energy you get today. Save energy starting the end of the day and repeat the Saturday.
=28 total refreshes, 4 per day @ 300 crystal = 2100 spent.
CANTINA
This was actually lowered to 480. Save 135 for the end of saturday, + 120 refresh, then 120 refresh sunday and natural regeneration will cover it. You will meet the requirements 3 hours before the end of the day.
= 200 crystal, 400 if you can't be on at start of day.
+ 50 crystal for arena day =2350-2550 total crystal needed per week. You get 77 crystal from GW/Daily (I checked today), for 539 per week. This means as long as you place in the top 10 arena every day you should be fine (250 x 7 + 539 = 2289). You will need to get into the top 5 a few days to cover the rest.
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Post by greg on Apr 23, 2016 21:16:28 GMT -5
Dark side and light side is a pro FTP change of the datamined info it used to be 198 battles which was 1600 8 energy nodes or 1200 in 6 energy nodes which was going to make farming gear difficult. Now I just have to hit 1400 energy which is easier.
So you get for Monday you stop spending at 6;00 am Sunday. Fill up to 135,get your 7:00 and 10:00 bonus plus 5 refills. Then you get 5 refills, 135 bonus, and at least 180 natural
135 90 600 600 135 180 ------ 1740 -- so you have 280 extra after dailies so can save 400 crystals a week here. This covers the additional gem costs of hard node days.
So these changes were roughly crystal neutral if farming 8 energy nodes and made Cantina just be 480 energy so you don't have to farm 8 energy nodes by default.
Overall these changes are FTP positive from the original list. I'll put together a full list of crystal costs but it should be around 2500 per week still.
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Post by greg on Apr 23, 2016 21:17:11 GMT -5
I see blah has beaten me to it with the math done.
Nice work.
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Post by Worban on Apr 23, 2016 21:18:36 GMT -5
So cool that both of you did it, because we can test your results against each other to see if they match up. Well done, guys!
And you both came up with an estimated 2,500 crystal requirement per week, so I trust the numbers. Top 10 (or 5 on some days) is very forgiving and if someone takes the 21-day crystal subscription, it adds even more wiggle room to that.
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